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| Subject: Dog Training My Way 25/3/2010, 16:43 | |
| Originally posted by Lois Schwarz on February 06, 2006.
I hope the following letter gets back to the person who is so against the use of the choke chain and who never did civilly write me at my email address to elaborate on my reasons for my use of such a tool. But who believes in her heart that choke chains around a dogs neck is inhumane.
the following is a letter from one of my friends:
Well, I don't think you have to respond to it. I don't think she will bother me anymore. It was just the idea..
Instead of openly writing a civil and tactful letter with her viewpoint on the list so you could discuss it with her, she writes to a person on the e-group behind your back. I am not on the ShilohZone so if it came up in their conversation I don't know why I had to be sent a letter. Of coarse she probably got my email off of the Shepalute egroup since I have posted on it and thought I would bennifit from her wisdom since you had posted that dog training thing.
If she were to bring it out in open discussion I would site numerous instances in which I personally have used a choke chain with good success and I have had wonderfully trained dogs with that system.
Also, you even said in your training thing the many ways you get puppies to do stuff before you even mentioned a choke chain.
Yes, I am wasting my breath...or rather fingers.
Judy
Here is my response only because you asked my dear and I love and respect the person you are.
The choke chain collar
As in all professions there are tools of the trade. Everyone in any profession understands the reason for the tools of the trade. If you are not a professional (which means you make a living at doing a certain service) then you may not understand that sentence.
When an electrician with 40 year experience in the field of electricity tells you that the ohm meter makes his job (of checking the continuity of the electrical current running through a 20 gage wiring system) better, you would tend to believe him.
Yet when a dog trainer of over 40 years tells you that the chain, choke collar is the best starting tool of his profession in which makes his job easier, why then does everyone feel compelled to question his knowledge?
What do you believe is happening when someone criticizes this professional dog trainer and makes such a statement as choke chains are cruel? Then other persons without the experience (and time in the field) chime in and say, yah that must be so! Then in the end you have a group of outspoken people who think they know something, why, because they all agree? (Sounds like politicians)
The professional trainer shakes her head and says nothing, not out of intimidation but out of the knowledge that those folks do not know what they are talking about and besides that, this professional trainer doesn't care if they use a halty lead that may take them a year to gently guide their pet into a humane walk on a leash or not,. Big deal. You will not get an argument out of me. Its like,, I eat meat but I dont argue, urge and spout off to all non-meat eaters that they must eat meat! And every one knows how in your face vegetarians can get while trying to convert the meat eaters. Same difference and most of those folks all belong to the same club the SPCA or equivalent.
Any way, some gal (who understands the proper use of a choke chain) then writes this professional trainer and says, Hey, why dont you write that dude back? Since you are the professional, you must have some profound words?
Yea, here it is, "When you are tired of trying the halty leash, go find a real professional dog handler and spit out the money for her expertise. Then she can pay her bills."
Why should I care how long it takes you to train your pet humanely? I dont And if it pleases you and makes you feel that you are so much better and that you love animals so much more than me, what do I care? Frankly I dont, but I do care about the lady who asks me to respond so here it is:
Any kind of collar can become an instrument of torture in the hands of the wrong person! In the hands of someone who doesn't know the proper use of the choke collar!
In this professionals opinion, slip collars of webbing, nylon, or chain are actually the most humane of training devices! When properly used these tools of the trade apply pressure to the thickest, toughest and most insensitive muscle in the dogs body and then only when the dog needs to be corrected or reminded. Dogs that are properly trained on the choke collar all walk freely without any pressure whatsoever on any part of their body, and they walk this way because they have learned that the owner has rules that require this of them.
If you are not an owner who requires a dog to walk beside you in what I call the game of heeling or walking beside me freely, then I couldn't care less if your dog pulls you down the street or if your dog is emotionally intimidated by the slightest pressure to his only smelling facility his nose. No dog that I have ever encountered in my life would rather I put a light weight halty leash around his olfactory nerve endings rather than around his neck. The nose is the most sensitive area in the dogs body so that emotional torture (not physical torture) is being applied to that poor animal and I personally feel sorry for any dog that has an owner that could be so insensitive. These nerve endings lead to the underserface of the brain. Not only are you interfering with the nerve endings and oxygen to the dogs brain, but you are applying pressure to the dogs sinuses. Sinusitis results in headaches and a great increase in secretion of mucus and swelling of the mucous membranes, oh,,,,, and there is more if you would just do your homework, it is not up to me to inform you. I inform people I like and or folks that pay me.
So what you have is a difference of opinion between whom?
People need to find out what is so for them and that is called freedom of choice. But unlike the person who spouts of inhumanity against all those who use choke chains, I do not feel the need to put my fellow man down and to try and argue my point just because the other person doesn't think like I do.
And for all of you who will say then why did you write such a long piece against those who feel choke chains are cruel? No need to discuss this with anyone who didn't comprehend what was just written. No one will be able to discuss any matter to anyone who cannot comprehend what was just said. Go back and re-read to find the answer cause if you e-mail me to ask me that question, I will not answer you.
No one can argue with a person who is ignorant, and why try? I stopped trying to discuss any thing with persons who just wish to argue and force their opinions upon others so that they can be right! Arguing with such individuals just puts the person arguing back in the same position as the arguer so when you do not hear me come back, its because there is really no need and it is a waste of my time.
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